Insights on responsible business


Insights on responsible business

A podcast series

Listen to business leaders discuss their challenges and experiences in becoming more responsible businesses, towards an outcome that is better for all stakeholders, better for long term shareholder value and better for society as a whole.

Building trust, security and resilience

Over complementary episodes the discussions about becoming responsible businesses will be led by our special host Sir Rob Wainwright, formerly Executive Director of Europol, and a senior partner of Deloitte with a career-long experience of navigating complex risk and security issues.

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#33 Trust in a sustainable digital economy

Sir Rob Wainwright and Ad Krikke

Our guest is Ad Krikke, leadership partner at Gartner. Rob and Ad talk about how trust not fear is the key to success in the cyber challenge confronting business, and at the heart of building a sustainable digital economy.

Ad was the Chief Information Security Officer or CISO for DSM and the chairman of the multinational Information Sharing and Analysis Center in the Netherlands until he made his move to Gartner in April 2019, where he now supports various CISOs of multinationals throughout Europe. He also lectures at the universities of Maastricht and Antwerp on the topic of cyber security. In 2018, he wrote a book on the ‘A Sustainable Digital Economy.’


Fear is a bad advisor. What fear does with us is that we retract back into our silos and then from there start to protect ourselves. From that position it becomes very complicated to develop new solutions which are a win-win.

                                                       — Ad Krikke —


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