Episode #14: Why do we think about physical and mental health differently?    

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When we think about physical health, we think of green smoothies and six packs. When we think about mental health, we think imagine heads in hands, people in distress.

We all have mental health, in the same way we all have physical health. So why do we only talk about it when something goes wrong?

Why don’t we look after our mental health until we have to? And why are we more likely to make time to go to the gym than we are to take time out for our mental wellbeing?

Is it time we stopped talking about mental and physical health and just talked about ‘health’ instead?

This week we’re joined by Steve Larke, consulting partner and mental health ambassador, and Geoff McDonald, mental health campaigner.

Tune in to find out:

  • Why Geoff believes talking about mental health saved his life
  •  How Steve prioritises wellbeing at work
  •  Why Ethan would like to be Prime Minister for a day
  •  How mental and physical health are interlinked

Every story that we tell is like sending a lifeboat out into the ocean. All those people that are struggling and suffering in silence. Do you know what they do? They cling on to the lifeboat and they realise that they might just be normal and not alone. – Geoff McDonald


Steve Larke
Technology Consulting Partner

Steve leads Deloitte’s Technology Consulting practice for the Consumer Products Sector. He has led major technology enabled business change programmes for a number of global CPG and Retail clients with particular focus on analytics & information management, digital sales and marketing transformation and ERP.

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Geoff McDonald
Former Global Vice President of HR at Unilever

In 2008, he woke up with a severe panic attack and was diagnosed with anxiety-fuelled depression. He’d never experienced any mental health issues before.

Geoff now consults with organisations on how to address the stigma linked to anxiety in the workplace, with a particular emphasis on raising awareness and providing practical strategies as to how one might go about addressing them. He is an active campaigner for breaking the stigma associated with mental health in the corporate world and has participated in a number of BBC programmes and campaigns regarding this subject, as well as writing of articles for Huffington Post, FT and HR related journals.

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